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Analysis: Where do Armenian issues fit in this week’s events in the Mediterranean?

Tensions in Turkey-Israel relations accumulating over the past two years have recently reached their zenith.

Given the peculiarities of the regional power layout, an issue of interest rises on how it all might affect Armenia – be it in terms of Armenia-Israel relations or the prospects of the Armenian Genocide recognition in Israel.

Or in the USA, for that matter. Jewish organizations have been traditionally supporting the Turkish lobby in their resistance to Genocide recognition process in the US Congress.

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08.06.2010 16:01
Fact: Israeli commandos attacked the humanitarian flotilla in neutal waters and killed civilians who also happned to be turkish citizens. Question. Will you protect the wrong doing because this wrong doing was done to your enemy? What does you conciosness tell you? Fact: Israel maintains an illigal blocade of Palestine. Question: Should the nation who claims to be wronged by the other and expects the world's recognition of it's pain simply coldly ignore the suffering of the other?. Should it speak against the victims of the attacs because it is against the victim's government? Ask your conciousness. Fact: Armenia has been illegally blocaded by Turkey for years. Question: Shouldn't the armenians speak out against all the illegal blocades, including their own, instead of trying to figure out who will score more points in this political stand off? Again, just be truthful to yourself. Talk about your problems, but don't defend the murderers.
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07.06.2010 09:02
Oh yes, saying both countries I meant Israel and Turkey.
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07.06.2010 08:52
Both countries in conflict with each other today. Tomorrow there will become good friends again,and the old, but always sweet romance between them will blossom more. Let's be kind to both great countries ,and wish them kindly:-'yerdjanik lineq,nooyn bardsin tseranaq!"
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07.06.2010 05:47
Anti Israeli slogans and rhetoric of Orduan & Davatoglu , Arınç Davutoğlu. &Co. are for the infantry in "Anatolia" and in the Islamic world. In reality Turkey desperately is looking for a face keeping way out/solution… The latest announcements of Fethullah Gülen - a prominent Turkish scholar- in FD should clear the way for Turkey for close door "diplomatically" consultations.. All what Israel has to do to agree to a kind of “international commission” ( Something like an unborn dead child) - Turkey likes "International commissions"… Israel could ask French President to head and master the “investigations”-
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06.06.2010 17:08
Nothing has changed and only the naive believe otherwise. It is doubtful that this 'tension' between these two close allies is genuine.
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06.06.2010 16:52
Erduan and Turkey says: "Torah telling the Jewish people that their religion forbids murders...." Mr Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.: and what about the fact of Armenian Genocide – which you and your country is proud of it ? From Istanbul to the Turkey’s border to the East is stolen land! ---- Israel should be the first country in the world to be interested in recognition of Armenian Genocide … Israel regards bloody and criminal Turkey as its strategic allay”!—Imagine : A Germany , which would still deny the Jewish Holocaust would be the “strategic ally” of Iran!(IStill ran unlike Turkey has not a genocidal past but a long rich history of civilization.-- Even Iranian society and people are despite 25 years ant Israeli propaganda in the country more friendly towards Jews and less anti-Semitic than this Turkey with 85 years pro Israeli and pro “Jewish propaganda” .. Turkey has promoted - like a tsunami- as much anti Americanism and anti-Semitic in the Islamic world as never before an Islamic ruler could do…. I think what Turkey did, is even a threat to the stability in many Islamic countries. Some rulers in Islamic and Arabic world could become stability problems…
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06.06.2010 15:09
It does not matter what you and I think. The problem is that Washington aligned itself with Turkey a murderous country for better or for worse and now it is stuck with Turkey's historical and new skeletons in the closet. The US knows it does not have to cater to Turkish demands...Turkey is just a pawn that will sooner or later be discarded...and sooner looks like what it will be...Long live Erdogan and new Sultan Abdullah
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06.06.2010 11:44
Rabbi Hillel said it best: "If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if I am only for myself, then what am I? And if not now, when?" .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. Let me set the record straight: The Israel Lobby in the US has and continues to be a strong and active opponenet of recognition of the Armenian Gemocide in the US Congress. The ADL **DID NOT** acknowledge the Genocide, and along with the AJC, JINSA and AIPAC actively and shamelessly continue to harm Armenian interest in the US Congress and elsewhere. .. .. .. .. .. .. Israel continues to arm, train and supply Azerbaijan with weaponary; and there has not been a change in active policy by Israel vis-a-vis Turkey. .. .. .. Davutoglu berates Israel, befriends Iran, insults Jews, threatens the US, and for this he will be getting an award from the taxpayer-funded Wilson Center (part of the Smithsonian) based in Washington on June 17th (verify date). This is wrong. Sec. of State Hillary Clinton is on the board of the Wilson Center, as well as many influential US-Jewery. .. .. .. .. I would lke to see the friends of Armenia take action and stop this hypocrisy by THE Lobby.
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05.06.2010 17:20
I think a good description of Turkeys policy is like someone climbing a cliff alternating between steps on the left and right. One push up on the 'west' one on 'east'. Even the liberal Turks might complain but in the end they enjoy having northern Cyprus, like why not. Ultra nationalist Turks should have been punished for the genocide but they weren't , and there will always be the risk of Turks flipping back to those policies .... I feel sad for Jews when I visit the holocaust museum in dc and read the line about armenians by hitler, yet feel awkward when Jews don't support the genocide...
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05.06.2010 06:14
I'm also an Israeli, and have to stress that there is a huge difference between the shameful political game that our goverenment has playing throughout the years about the Armenian genocide and what the actual view of the Israeli population. We feel your pain and mourn your brothers and sisters death. Let there be no mistake - Fascist Isalam must be confronted by all those who believe in freedom and democracy.
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05.06.2010 05:28
Jewish Holocaust committed by NAZI Germany become the industrialized and unique version of Turkish lead Armenian Genocide .... Israel and Jewish Diaspora got there own Turkish made 9/11 to deal with. Jews Politicians are blinded … As Jews came to Ottoman Empire 500 years was the Ottoman Empire at that time was still more (90%) Christian, Greek and Armenian rather “Turkish etc”…Jews politicians and intellectuals don’t like to accept the new realities in modern “Ottoman Turkey"!! THE REASONS ARE: “when Jewish functionaries use to describe the Ottoman Turkey as a paradise of earth, they both distort history and negate the inhumanities experienced by the Armenian People; instead, an unmerited wrong image of a heroic and pro-Judaic Turkey is propagated throughout Jewish communities and private homes within the sphere of the Jewish Diaspora and even Israel itself, a new generation grows that is spoon-fed the misconceptions of the valiant Turk and perfidious Armenian.... wrong education and assumptions can have fatal consequences ....-
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04.06.2010 16:48
PART II...: I hope Hollywood will finally make the movie on Armenian Genocide " The 40 days of Musa Dagh -"!.... It happened something which nobody in Jewish Diaspora and Israel itself as well in parts of the World wasn´t expecting or couldn´t even dream of/or imagine it..... I am sorry for both Jewish and Palestinian people... because of there sufferings sin the last 50 years !..BUT TURKEY IS ANYTHING BUT HUMAN! So called pro-Judaic Turkey has brought a 9/11 to Israel ( the ende of the action and its out come is still open). Thanks to the efforts of so called pro-Judaic Turkey Israel has its own 9/11 to deal with.... Turkish sponsored 9/11 for Israel was welcomed by a well orchestra anti Israeli (and in many cases even anti-Semitic) demonstrations in many parts of the world.... I don’t like to be pessimistic …Despite all these ugly developments the recognition of Armenian genocide by US or Israel seems to be less realistic and even unlikely ….As if we would expect from Russia to recognize the independence of NKR while recognition Abkhazia etc…
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04.06.2010 16:47
PART I. It seems: Turkish General Staff is not really sorry about the loss of life and answer/reaction of Israel at sea (etc)... Turkish General Staff is not against the existence of Turkish Islamist/Hisbollah and ultra nationalists but only if these groups are controlled by army itself (for special operations...)- which in case of “Gaza operation” was definitely not the case . ….I would say Turkish General Staff – if it could- would prefer to charter a Swedish or Irish or Pakistani boat and put PM Endogen &Co (all his opponents) and send them on the way to “Israeli controlled coast”...The rest one should imagine ... Unfortunately, THIS Turkey – with or without Erdogan - remains a threat for the security of Armenia and Armenian people as well a threat to the peace in the region!.....PS: Where are the members of US Congress and politicians who use(d) to call for press conference and predict the end of the world, if US Congress would dare to recognize formerly the historical facts about the Armenian Genocide simply by passing a non binding resolution????? The “game” which Turkey has started (blackmailing and playing with fire) is FAR, FAR more challenging and dangerous than passage of an non binding Armenian Resolution by US Congress.... As everybody can see Turkey is continuing blackmailing, threatening (“end of Turkish patience – our patience is not endless...”) ,recalling ambassador (additional leave) using different kinds of rhetoric … BUT THE WORLD GOES ON ....!!!!
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04.06.2010 12:16
My dear Armenian brothers, I am Israeli and in the name of practically all Israelis I want to express my shame over the fact that our government has so far refused to recognise the Genocide. The current incident proves beyond ANY doubt, that it is wrong to lick the a** of any country for political gains, for these "benefits" are short lived and do not hold water in the long term. Turkey likes or dislikes us independently of the needed Genocide recognition. I wish we Israelis at last stop thinking about how to be loved most. If we go with the truth, it will pay off in the long run. I am afraid Turkey is only able to relapse to this ugly neo-ottomanism (mingled with even uglier Islamism) only because it was not unequivocally told where its limits are. No matter if our government has the guts to finally recognise your tragedy or not: the Israeli people knows too well what you went through and the "recognition" was always in our hearts. Israel is with you... APRICOT STONE HIDDEN IN MY HEAD (12 points)!
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