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Outrage in a cage: Online display of Lions v Donkey fight spurs public outcry in Armenia

A recent online video showing a donkey fighting off two lion cubs inside what appeared to be a private zoo cage in front of an ecstatic Armenian-talking crowd has spurred a public outcry and driven a debate on values in society, including the state of animal rights and protection.

Gagik Tsarukyan, a wealthy businessman and government-connected MP who has a zoo and is known to be particularly fond of lions, has flatly denied that the video that appeared online last week had anything to do with him or his animals.

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28.10.2009 07:49
Hayq, very good, I agree on most of what you said... Regarding NKR, i doubt they would have an 'embassy' in DC if it wasn't for the Armenian lobby, nor they would get any humanitarian help from the US due to political reasons. So NKR is very dear to Spurk, it taught us many lessons about survival.... It is not enough and we can do more, but as u said the problem is Armenia now. So you are expecting the spurk to lobby and portrait the Government in Armenia as corrupt and that the system should be brought down, don’t you think that this will be like the declaration of ‘civil war’ between spurk and the current regime? I hope this never happens as it will alienate all spurk. There is a 50% you need to do in AM first. Once the general public and the majority decides to change the system then spurk can support, but now and with a ‘democratically’ elected leaders in Armenia, spurk have no business in interfering, u want to have animosity between spurk and 60% of AM citizens? Corrupt or not, the wind of change should blow from Yerevan… And no one is crying here, our grandparents did but our generation is here to act… and you should target ordinary people and not rich spurk, if Artur and I return and others join, Armenia will be on its path to success... you need people to return and turn the economy, build the GDP from within, scientists, manufactoring... its not that Armenian citizens aren't skilled, but spurk are well established abroad so with one leg in US/FR/LB another in Armenia slowly they will move, buy a house, start a business, bring their experience and share it... that's my opinion anyway...
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27.10.2009 18:12
I didn´t mean ordinary people. I meant rich and influencial Diaspora Armenians. Instead of investing all that money in Genocide campaign, spend at least the half of that money to help to change to corrupt and criminal regime in Armenia. Introduce Nagorno Karabakh resolutions. Demand from US to recognize Artsakhs independence. You don´t have to cry, my family suffered too from the Genocide. But at this moment, neither the Genocide or Turkey or Azerbaijan is the problem that makes Armenia as it is right now. Not welcome? You are Armenian, Armenia is yours just as it is mine. If you speak Armenian, feel Armenian than you can live in Armenia. Its not my fault that there are so many retarded people in Armenia who don't tolerate people from outside. All the smart people left the country, the country is left with morons and a little percentage of good and smart people. When these morons go abroad they start to 'forget' Armenian and speak the language of their host country in order to seem developed. Also people in Armenia who try to make a civilized impression, speak Russian. They don't know that if they go to Russia nobody will give a damn about them. Maybe also a good article for ArmeniaNow would be to write about those highly civilized juries of HaySuperstar who give their comments in Russian.
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27.10.2009 13:50
Can someone clean up the video and identify the property in the back round? It may help.
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27.10.2009 12:44
This is sick, but it happens in America, too. E.g. the dog fighting case with American football player Michael Vick. The difference is that here, in Armenia, there is no legislation which forbids animal cruelty. I think this is a travesty. So, legally, you can do this and face no punishment...sad.
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26.10.2009 23:17
This is sickening. I can not believe my Armenian brothers and sisters in Armenia would tolerate such a thing. What kind of beasts would gather around a cage watch a lion rip a donkey apart and enjoy watching it? Oh Armenia, when will you mature?
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26.10.2009 21:51
Hayg, While your frustrations with Armenia and the Armenian Diaspora are understandable, take it easy. I agree that Diasporans are, for the most part, disconnected from the realities of Armenia. However, you are quite out of touch with what life is like in the Diaspora. It is not about eating hamburgers, being wealthy and having an irrational obsession with the genocide. Indeed, with that attitude, you won't receive much of the help you are requesting. Your impressions of Diasporans and Diasporan life betray an unfortunate ignorance that, to put it mildly, is annoying. Many of us in the Diaspora speak Armenian just fine. In fact, many speak better than your average Hayastantsi. It is not easy to preserve culture for 100+ years. It is a losing battle as evidenced by the assimilation of plenty of recent Hayastantsi arrivals to the Diaspora who have lost this battle in less than a generation. We are not all wealthy. Most of our families have been working exremely hard (for several generations) to provide a basic, good life to our children at tremendous sacrifice. We donate to things Armenian (including Armenia). In fact, it is a miracle that this many years later so many Diasporans are still attached to being Armenian. Apparently, you mistakenly think that preserving language and culture in totally foreign environments is a simple matter. If Hayastantsis, as a whole, acted with the same dedication and honesty as many Diasporans, life for Hayastantsis would improve immensely and Diasporan assistance would be more forthcoming. The Diaspora is well aware of corruption in Armenia. The Diaspora is also aware how much that corruption filters down to the man on the street. There is a societal problem in Armenia, not merely a governmental one. As for your incomprehensible distance from the genocidal experiences of many Armenian families, if you think things are bad in present-day Armenia, take those conditions and then add on having nearly your entire family robbed, raped, and murdered before your eyes, with the remainder lucky to be exiled. Wouldn't you and/or your descendants be dedicated to achieving justice? Perhaps not - and that is the problem with too many people in Armenia today.
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26.10.2009 21:28
Hayq, i'm not sure why your comment is to this article, but i'll give my opinion here anyway. The mistakes you did in your comment: 1) those sitting comfortably in LA,Paris... did it with their own hard work, Spurks and their fathers started from scratch and no one helped them, neither their host countries nor Armenia... It is not fair to portrait spurk as greedy people... they just started finding themselves after the massacres and the psychological wounds... 2) you again pictured spurk as money, don't look at us like you are looking to dollar bills. most spurk are doing ok but only because they work in host countries, and because of the host country's economic system. the general population doesn't have money to spare every month, they are busy feeding their children just like Armenians in Armenia! 3) you never mentioned the return of the Spurk. Why would anyone seriously invest (i'm talking about regular folks, the big bulk) in Armenia if you aren't welcoming him/her? You might think that Spurk have money but once you remove them from the host countries they will be poor again. if they make 80k per year, they will make zero if they leave that country....and will be poor again 4) if your audience is just the rich spurk then you don't have to remind them. they are building expensive single houses in Ararat valley and investing in the economy.... this is good but it is not enough... If you believe that Turks are Armenia's enemies and if your name is really Hayg and/or you are Armenian than you shouldn't be implicitly saying what Turks are saying 'Armenian spurk should mind their business', that is deducted from the Hamburger you mentioned. It is easy to tell what is good for Armenia and what is bad by listening to Turkey, they will never say anything good to Armenia.... if they say spurk should shut up , that means we should scream. If they say Armenia shouldn't participate in regional pipelines than Armenia should try its best to be included...i'm talking about current Turkish government. Most of Armenian spurk are doing what they are able to, they can put pressure on foreign countries to accept the Genocide that in turn puts pressure on Turkey... the effectiveness of this strategy is debatable but that is something Spurk can do and they are doing it... lets see how those protocols turn out, i would want to see a hypothetical version of the protocol hadn't there been a Genocide claim against Turkey by the spurk...what would be the conditions? Let's take me for example, i'm not even close to being rich but thank God i am surviving at the moment. I probably represent the big bulk of Spurk. I returned to Armenia for a relatively good while but i couldn't support myself, so i left. How can I help you? And believe me, i know a lot of the injustice going on, i have many friends in Yerevan that i'm still in touch, they are like brothers to me....but again, how can i help? let me jump start this, i need to be working and living in Armenia to be able to help. correct?
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26.10.2009 20:08
what kind of name is Wandaryan? we dont have the letter W. she's pulling the strings.
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26.10.2009 19:29
Diaspora Armenians, I am just wondering, do you know that there is injustice going on in your beloved homeland, the land of your ancestors. Do you know that there are other problems besides 'Turkey is bad, we have to hate Turkey and Turkey has to recognize the Armenian Genocide'? Many people in Armenia are starving of hunger while you are in sitting in your warm houses in Los Angeles, eating hamburgers and singing the Armenian Genocide-song over and over again. The Armenian leaders are corrupt. I cannot remember that any Diaspora-leader has made a comment about that? Don't you think its bad for the image of your country, having corrupt leaders? With all the money you have, you can easily get rid of pigs like Gagik Tsarukyan and other oligarchs and make Armenia a peaceful place to live. Instead of building one or two more schools or buildings in Armenia, help Armenia to get rid of corruption, help Armenia to get normal leaders, so that they don't eat all the money themselves and give it to their own people instead. It's easy for you to be nationalistic. You don't feel the economic problems that Armenians in Armenia have. You live safely and wealthy in Paris, New York, Cairo and Sydney. Besides, many of you have never been in Armenia. That is really funny. Many of you do not even speak Armenian. You want to do something good for Armenia and Armenians. I understand. But I can assure you that by only concentrating on the Armenian Genocide issue, you will not help nor Armenia or Armenians in Armenia. Help Nagorno Karabakh to be an independent country. Support the resignation of the criminal regime in Armenia. Learn your children to speak Armenian so that they can preserve their culture. I can name many more things. I totaly understand your grief and I know that one day the Armenian Genocide will be recognized, but I think it is really egoistic, not to mention ignorant, from your side to only concentrate on the Armenian Genocide. I hope you will understand me. ArmeniaNow, you should write and article asking the Diaspora to wake up and to spend their money in the right way.
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26.10.2009 19:05
I would just like to note that conventional media doesn't just read blogs, it access social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter. Working for a local news agency myself, I received the news of this video via Facebook and created the story for the article from there. Of course, it's all speculation and it's important to note it as such when writing the story (hence, the use of words like "allegedly" :)
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26.10.2009 17:53
Let’s be fair and honest. I apologize for my comment in advance. Is the reality and mentality of Oligarchy regime much different? In reality a “clan” regards himself as the “lion” and as if the folk were "donkey"- Else there would be more justcie no need for "private zoo" and rull of law....
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