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Վիճահարույց ակցիա. հայ երիտասարդների կողմից Թուրքիայի դրոշի այրումը քննադատության է արժանացել ոչ միայն Թուրքիայում, այլև Հայաստանում

11 տարի շարունակ ՀՅԴ կուսակցությունը կազմակերպում է ջահերով երթ` հարգելով Ցեղասպանության զոհերի հիշատակը: Երթի վերջում, ավանդույթի համաձայն, այրում են Թուրքիայի դրոշը, որը կրկնվեց նաև այս տարի` ապրիլի 23-ին:

Որոշ հայեր միշտ էլ այս քայլը համարել են անտեղի քաղաքական ակցիա` արված մի օր, երբ պետք է ավելի շատ հարգանքի տուրք մատուցել զոհվածների հիշատակին, քան թշնամանք ցույց տալ:

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15.01.2011 12:41
Supporting ASALA basically justifies Turkey's position about 1915. Just so we understand how terrorists are dealt with. What the international standard is. America is the most powerful country in the world and therefore has a lot to say on this issue. GITMO, Iraq, etc. That is how one deals with terrorists. And of course Turkiye will flow America's example when dealing with terrorists. All you ASALA supporters remember this.
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14.12.2010 08:21
UNTIL THE DAY THAT THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE IS RECOGNIZED FROM TURKEY ... WE SHALL BURN TURKISH FLAGSSSSSSSSSS BURN TURKISH FLAG AND PICTURES OF TURKISH POLITICIANS INCLUDING ATATURK !! BURN THE TURKISH FLAG BURNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN GOD BLESS A.S.A.L.A
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29.11.2010 06:45
You Armenians are jokers! What Genocide? You became trators to your host country so they flung you out! Who can blame them? As for 1.5 "million" it seems to be rising every year. Is there a link between inflation and the numbers of "genocide victims"? Pathetic.
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15.05.2010 17:37
What is uncivilized about burning a flag of an enemy who until today disrespects us. All these comments about being uncivilized, well where is your civilized suggestions? Maybe we should write the president and all the diplomats of turkey a letter! WOW guess they don't have shredders in turkey. The uncivilized are the ones who do not support their nation and are willing to defend it to the last drop of blood. It's easy to sit in your nice little space and type ur bs and lecturing others. You don't like what the ARF does, become a member of the AGBU, or SDHP or whatever you desire become a monk. Like they say, if you don't like it walk away.
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06.05.2010 14:59
Turco wrote," ASALA Fedayis were not civilized when they murdered Turkish diplomats." Turco dude,for every ACTION there is a REACTION. Massacre of 1.5 million UNARMED Armenians by Turks is beyond CIVILIZATION.
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30.04.2010 00:59
Neither Armenians nor Turks are civilized. Asala "fedayis" were not civilized when they killed diplomats who had nothing to do with Armenian genocide. Some of those former diplomats talk on tv shows with their pro-armenian views. Look at the irony here! The bastard shooting Hrant dink was also not civlized. If you commit a crime, if you hate, if you take revenge, it is of no importance how "civilized" you do it.
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27.04.2010 23:01
How about shutting down the consuls and embassies of all nations who don't acknowledge our pain? That would be a good start.... Forget about the repercussions, just do it!!
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27.04.2010 16:53
I agree with spurktsi in that our outrage needs to be expressed and we need to be talked to with a higher regard. There's no need for us to respect those who patronize and minimize us at every opportunity. Yes, todays turkish government is the most progressive (in regard to Armenian relations) since that half-Armenian sultan allowed our 'revolutionaries' to protest in public...but let us not forget that they (both the long gone sultan and the military of turkey) still practice ethnic cleansing and state terrorism against civilians. yerevan 'talks' to ankara because moscow gives the orders. we diasporans have no such dependence on Russia.
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27.04.2010 09:57
Spiurksi, some actions are correct others are not. It is absolutely right to defend yourself on the battlefield, (although it is the self sacrifice of a minority -in Karabakh for which the majority in armchairs take the credit). Burning flag is a primitive gesture that is bound to inflame public opinion in Turkey and put pressure on moderate Turks. It's also bad for Armenian PR. The burning of Armenian flags is also very bad, and how would you feel if a Turkish mob was burning an Armenian flag near you? Likewise it was foolish for a small minority in the 19th century to take up arms against the Ottoman empire, when 98% were not interested in rebellion, thus turning a paranoid Ottoman state against an undefended and unpolitical population
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27.04.2010 06:10
what about Hrant Dink Arevelk, would you have whispered in his ear to stay quiet to save his life? after all, he put all Armenians in Istanbul at risk... go ask his family now, ask if they would have changed anything in his life.... his death triggered a new wave that is bringing justice and tolerance in the whole region... God bless his sole....
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27.04.2010 06:05
Arevelk, i can't help but reply to you, i've been following your comments for a while now and at times you sound to me like a defeatist. Do you realize that if you were in charge in late 1980s Karabakh would never have been free like it is today? you would have said 'oh, we shouldn't provoke the Azeris, we should live under oppression as long as we can breath we are ok...', a mentality that we paid dearly for in the past.... your enemy doesn't need execuses to kill you, no matter whether you sit still or you try to fight, the will to annihilate you is there, so better struggle and live in dignity then always live or die in shame... don't take this personal, i disagree with your line of thought that's all... They signed the protocol a year ago without conditions and now they want Karabakh, why did they sign then? just another Turkish maneuver.... how do you react to that, by falling into the same trap again with pointless hopes?... not that burning flags changes anything, but i wouldn't condemn it the way you are, they are doing much worses, we can't sit there and be all civilized while no one seems to care about us, if the same mentality prevailed in NKR, probably there would have been 1.650.000 Genocide victims....
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27.04.2010 04:44
Why is it supposed that we(Armenians) should always act civilised and in accordance with norms, while Tukey and Azerbaijan keep bullying us and have no respect for us? Burning flags is a common practice in most Islamic countries including Turkey, they sometimes burn the flags of such countries as Israel and US with whom they are "allies,"in retaliation, the Turkish nationalists also burnt the Armeian flag in Istanbul on 24 April but no Armenian official has ever bothered to condemn it!
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26.04.2010 23:37
There is no need to provoke additional anti-Armenian feeling in Turkey. What about the safety of thousands of Armenians in Turkey (both Turkish and Armenian)? Do the flag burners care about them? Will the ARF ever learn from past mistakes (seizing the Ottoman bank and in the process provoking a massacre in Istanbul)?
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26.04.2010 21:33
There are no diplomatic relations and I don't see any future in this process. And also don't think there is any need in this if Turkey is gonna continue the same politics regarding Armenian issue and especcialy the Genocide Denial. I cannot even describe what feeling I am having when I see the turkish flag burnt. I show disrespect to thе barbarians called turks and I don't really wanna have any open borders or any others relations with this country. Don't think about tolerance and the international audience. Don't think what world would think about us, but think first about ourselves. No concessions!!! Let's live only taking into consideration and protecting the interests of our country and our nation. Nobody else will ever really care about us!!
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26.04.2010 12:34
Burning Turkey's flag in Armenia is in bad taste and should be condemned. there is no excuse for it.
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26.04.2010 12:08
Flag burning is a sign of primitiveness..there are one million ways to show your reaction by civilized way.
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26.04.2010 10:11
This is completely pointless, infantile and yes, uncivilized. Besides today's leaders in Turkey have shown more willingness to compromise than all previous ones. If the ARF youth are looking ways in which to be productive there are millions of ways to do it. But the alternatives probably require more work than flag burning.
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26.04.2010 10:05
1. Who cares? We have a grievance against Turkey and this is an expression from one group of Armenians. 2. Who cares? The tashnags for years were AGAINST turkish flag burning at their annual LA consulate protests. Now, all of the sudden, the tashnags green light this, as the Armenian diaspora begins to open its eyes. 3. We need to "burn flags" with our words when we speak with Turkish people. They are STILL against Armenia and Armenians. They are still practicing ethnic cleansing policies. They are still a military dictatorship, despite recent challenges. 4. Why should I have sympathy for the government that not only proclaims itself as the next evolution of the Ottoman Empire but neglects to accept the responsibility for the genocide, that other turks did! Even atabok himself acknowledged repeatedly the genocide. 5. As long as the tashnags aren't doing their usual of calling non-tashnags 'traitors' we should be happy and hope they develop non-partisan patriotism like the rest of the Armenian world.
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26.04.2010 08:42
Are we Armenians and Turks posed to burn each other? How civilized !!
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26.04.2010 07:55
flag burning comes from frustration, for centuries Turkey is using the same policy against its minorities, it is the policy of the wolf constantly criticising the lamb to find a reason to eat it, although the lamb cannot eat the wolf nor it has interest in the wolf's diet... that translates to a big country with big resources finding excuses to invade a small country and expel its citizens.... There are new voices in Turkey and new hopes of a better future, but nothing tangible is coming out of it, only more middle ages rhetoric and only more frustration of senseless hope....
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26.04.2010 06:28
For a backgrounder on "flag desecration" I suggest readers read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_desecration Also worth mentioning is the fact that Armenia and Turkey do not have diplomatic relations, which might have been the reason why during their recent meeting in Washington, the Armenian President and the Turkish Prime Minister had their respective countries' flags behind them ( http://www.president.am/files/file.php?fid=6244 ), as opposed to each leader having the opposite side's flag behind them, when the countries had bilateral relations (http://www.president.am/files/file.php?fid=6247 and http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/Turkey%20NSS.jpg ). I am not sure whether this is part of international protocol practice or U.S. protocol, but certainly there seems to be a difference in how the flag of a country is treated by a country with which it has or does not have diplomatic relations.
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